Another thing that I wanted to mention and I think it needs discussing. You are commenting on how much personal and health information is contained in the covid pass. This is obviously true but there is another dimension to it, which worries me even more. I heard on Youtube recently, with regard to the Canadian protest, that when you are in a possession of a pass, you donlt even need to show it to the border control when you go through it - they detect you when you are in their proximity. This reminded me that the pass is a terrific way of following the movement of everybody who has been passported. People argue, yeah but this could also be done with our credit cards and also, the avionic companies have data on who traveled where. Trues but this data cannot be retrieved by the government just like that and neither could the data from our credit cards (cause banking regulation). With the pass, the government found a perfectly good way of watching our every movement (including in social setting), keep tabs on who we are gathering with and so on, without having to ask a judge for a permission (which would be the case with tracing a credit card in a criminal investigation case, for example) or go through a very bothersome and complicated procedure with your bank (in some Money Laundering scenarios). The cheery on top is that all goes into the same database, which allows the track and trace of a substantial number of people and the processing of their data at a much faster rate. In some weird scenarios, this may lead to a faster reaction by the government to movements or congregations that are not in its interest, and of course, an ability to blackmail political opponents in case there is something in their personal life that they would not want to disclose (for example, the pass will lead to data on where the person went and with whom). Their excuse is that the data is anonymized. Yeah, like we are going to believe that. In order to verify that the correct person uses the correct pass, someone somewhere must have all data and compare it. I just don't trust that once these data has been verified, it has been erased. If it is erased now, this will probably stop once the public attention shifts to other issues. Because it doesn't seem logical that they will drop the pass, it is too sweet for them.
This is spot on. It’s a topic that we can tease out the known unknowns and still be totally unaware of the unknown unknowns. What happens if suddenly the government doesn’t like your posts on social media? Can they just freeze your bank account via the digital pass? China already does it. The dangers implicated in having a central power having total control of populations is bigger than having a rogue bad apple acting out within that population. The top down power pyramid is just not practical, no matter what type of government you have. Democracy is no more immune to collectivism than communism or monarchy. Collaborative anarchy and self governance are better models.
Absolutely. They may not need to use the pass to freeze your bank account but from what we've seen last week (GoFundMe), government could and would interfere with the money of those who disagree with their policies. Other than being outright theft, this could also be characterised as slavery because those who paid their money into the convoy's account (should their money have ended to be confiscated by the platform) would have been working for GoFundMe to the extent of their respective confiscated contribution. And incidentally, this demonstrates that collaborative anarchy and self governance are not necessarily less treacherous because they could be abused by more powerful agents.
Hm. That’s a good point. I suppose those structures are only feasible if each human recognises their own value within humanity and nature. Right now, we are told “less for you is more for me”, when in fact, what’s good for your neighbor is also good for me. So if we can have an internal consciousness shift, the rest will follow. Thank you for sharing your insights. Always appreciated.
"Under the guise of emergency, the US has experienced the most massive transfer of wealth and has eliminated a swath of home owners and small business owners." Very well observed. Something similar happened in 2007-2009. They are now just putting the finishing touches of a masterpiece.
Precisely. 4.7 million homes were foreclosed or bought at short sale between 2007-2011. They know exactly what to do and how to do it. Our option might be to start building parallel societies with local economies and get out of the globalisation trap. Make this paradigm obsolete.
Another thing that I wanted to mention and I think it needs discussing. You are commenting on how much personal and health information is contained in the covid pass. This is obviously true but there is another dimension to it, which worries me even more. I heard on Youtube recently, with regard to the Canadian protest, that when you are in a possession of a pass, you donlt even need to show it to the border control when you go through it - they detect you when you are in their proximity. This reminded me that the pass is a terrific way of following the movement of everybody who has been passported. People argue, yeah but this could also be done with our credit cards and also, the avionic companies have data on who traveled where. Trues but this data cannot be retrieved by the government just like that and neither could the data from our credit cards (cause banking regulation). With the pass, the government found a perfectly good way of watching our every movement (including in social setting), keep tabs on who we are gathering with and so on, without having to ask a judge for a permission (which would be the case with tracing a credit card in a criminal investigation case, for example) or go through a very bothersome and complicated procedure with your bank (in some Money Laundering scenarios). The cheery on top is that all goes into the same database, which allows the track and trace of a substantial number of people and the processing of their data at a much faster rate. In some weird scenarios, this may lead to a faster reaction by the government to movements or congregations that are not in its interest, and of course, an ability to blackmail political opponents in case there is something in their personal life that they would not want to disclose (for example, the pass will lead to data on where the person went and with whom). Their excuse is that the data is anonymized. Yeah, like we are going to believe that. In order to verify that the correct person uses the correct pass, someone somewhere must have all data and compare it. I just don't trust that once these data has been verified, it has been erased. If it is erased now, this will probably stop once the public attention shifts to other issues. Because it doesn't seem logical that they will drop the pass, it is too sweet for them.
This is spot on. It’s a topic that we can tease out the known unknowns and still be totally unaware of the unknown unknowns. What happens if suddenly the government doesn’t like your posts on social media? Can they just freeze your bank account via the digital pass? China already does it. The dangers implicated in having a central power having total control of populations is bigger than having a rogue bad apple acting out within that population. The top down power pyramid is just not practical, no matter what type of government you have. Democracy is no more immune to collectivism than communism or monarchy. Collaborative anarchy and self governance are better models.
Absolutely. They may not need to use the pass to freeze your bank account but from what we've seen last week (GoFundMe), government could and would interfere with the money of those who disagree with their policies. Other than being outright theft, this could also be characterised as slavery because those who paid their money into the convoy's account (should their money have ended to be confiscated by the platform) would have been working for GoFundMe to the extent of their respective confiscated contribution. And incidentally, this demonstrates that collaborative anarchy and self governance are not necessarily less treacherous because they could be abused by more powerful agents.
Hm. That’s a good point. I suppose those structures are only feasible if each human recognises their own value within humanity and nature. Right now, we are told “less for you is more for me”, when in fact, what’s good for your neighbor is also good for me. So if we can have an internal consciousness shift, the rest will follow. Thank you for sharing your insights. Always appreciated.
"Under the guise of emergency, the US has experienced the most massive transfer of wealth and has eliminated a swath of home owners and small business owners." Very well observed. Something similar happened in 2007-2009. They are now just putting the finishing touches of a masterpiece.
Precisely. 4.7 million homes were foreclosed or bought at short sale between 2007-2011. They know exactly what to do and how to do it. Our option might be to start building parallel societies with local economies and get out of the globalisation trap. Make this paradigm obsolete.