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That howling sound in the background is just painful. :D

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You talking about her singing? 😂

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Ooooh it's singing. Could've sworn someone stepped on a dog's tail.

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😂

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I loved yer accountin' of the whole enchilada -- the spicy hot red sauce, the milder cheeze, the BEANS! (An' of course RFK Jr aside, it's purdy great you an' Mary got ta meet in person!) So... since ya mentioned RFK Jr & the comp'ny he keeps... I'll mention this recent one'a mine on jus' that top-pick:

https://thcsofdaisymoses.substack.com/p/flying-robert-with-flying-robert

Part've me would like ta think that Bobby's frankness 'bout his past AND his smarts 'bout all things medi-cull might revive some hope fer the Left (which I LEFT!!!!) but I'm thinking that nice guys finish last... some trust the wrong folks in 5th Gen warfare (Mlle Meryl too...), AND there's so much more'n meets the eye that even those've us TRYIN' ta look harder an' discern git tangled in some'a them weeds...

All that said, it WUZ a moment historic an' you were there--that's sumthin' in an' of itself... (Mebbe time fer a viddeoy 'bout it?)

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PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol X – Preparing for Power . . . (((SARS-CoV2)))

❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissention, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by the inoculation of diseases. by want, so that the “Goyim” see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and in all else.❞

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/protocol-x-preparing-for-power-sars

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Just read it. Glad you shared. I’ve been missing a bunch lately. Really well done.

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Well done, Tonika! I just read Mary's article as well and loved them both. I asked her if she has much Sagittarius in her chart because we spend our lives searching for the Truth with a huge dose of optimism. Do you?? "Just Tell the Truth, Bobby" is the absolutely perfect title. I said the same to a friend the other day. "I just hope he tells the truth."

I have so many virtual friendships that I've made since 2020, like you and Mary. It must have been a happy meeting!!

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Substack has been a lighthouse in a dark and stormy night. Grateful for all the connections I’ve made here.

How do I know what I have in my chart? I’m a Scorpio. But honestly a lot of the traits of my sign don’t really connect with me. I don’t have a jealous bone in my body. There really isn’t that much mystery behind my eyes. And I really don’t enjoy watching people fall off pedestals, makes me uncomfortable.

But I am optimistic. I trust that nature doesn’t support malignant psychopathy. So, eventually, it’ll correct itself.

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I never resonated with Astrology: under Western/Tropical I am a Leo, which never made sense to my character (even though I tried to convince myself otherwise for a while). Then I came across Vedic Astrology, and did a reading with a conspiratorial Vedic astrologer and it was life changing, because (among other revelations) it shifted my energy from the fiery Leo to the watery Cancer. I would suggest doing your chart under Sidereal rather than Tropical, and seeing if the basic alignments and energies make more sense.

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See, I have no idea what these words mean. There are different kind of astrology sciences? I don’t know what the signs mean, but if you’re a Leo, your physiognomy is a bit lion like, so that tracks. And that surface level extrapolation is all I got. 😜

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Western/Tropical and Eastern/Vedic/Sidereal are quite different in significant ways. In Sidereal, the entire sky clock is moved 24 degrees to reflect the turning of the stars due to precession, while Tropical sees it as stuck from 2000 years ago. So most people actually have different sun signs in their Sidereal chart, although under Vedic theory the sun sign isn't as influential, and the Moon and its two nodes (Rahu and Ketu) are more significant to understanding someone's birth chart. Maybe its time for a conspiratorial astrology sunrise rant...

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🤯 yeah, I would say so 🌅

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Well, I'm just at kindergarten level with astrology :) but, I'm slowly learning. I didn't have a reading until I was in my fifties, so I could look back and see that I had absolutely been living a life in sync with my chart. If you know your time of birth and place of birth, you can get your complete chart online. Time Passages is a good phone app, but there are many sites where you can get it for free. Just knowing your sun sign (Scorpio) is only a tiny piece of the puzzle. It's so fascinating. And like everything else in life, there's the light side and the shadow side (like Scorpio being jealous.) Scorpio is a very misunderstood sign.

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Interesting. I have a friend who keeps telling me to look into it. I just might, I just might. I think I haven’t because it’s a vast subject and I tend to go hard when I get into something. I look up my chart and it’s gonna be Astrology 101 for weeks at my house. But it is rather interesting...

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HAHAHA that is such a Sagittarian thing to say! That is exactly how I roll. I'm taking a beginning astrology class right now (at age 69!) and am so confused but fascinated at the same time.

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Figures in the public eye rarely get a better chance to clear the table by simply telling the truth.

Start with the CIA and our DoD overlords and go from there.

We who believe that we know something of what you might say are waiting.

Respectfully, for now.

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We shall know them by their fruits.

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TONIKA! Isaac is right --this essay was well worth the wait! Of course, my bias is creeping in because a) I was there and had the most meaningful, energizing, hilarious and moving seven hours I could possibly imagine with you; b) I have such a love for your work (and you!); and c) heck, my name is in the subtitle!! 😆

All of that aside, if that's even possible, I do think your well-crafted message (in the essay AND the fantastic video) is spot-on. What we need from Bobby is not a hero... We need the WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP HIM GOD. 🙏

A tall order, for sure, but that is what will set him, and all of us, free.

Thank you, dear theatre nerd friend, for your spontaneity and honesty and sense of humor and talent and smarts... And for your deep goodness! I am so damn lucky to have found you! 🌟

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I think the universe knew what it was doing, dear friend! Thank you for your kindness, “your words have put me on a plane with Caesar” as ol’ Christopher Marlowe says. I cherish you and look forward to when we breath the same air again. ❤️ 🤗 ❤️

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Wow... is ANYONE else on Substack quotiing Marlowe? I think not!

Same back atcha, babe... xox

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Marlowe was gonna be my son’s name sake, remember? Now forever stuck as his middle name. 😂

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I remember! So cool

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So good!!! I cannot believe you were in Boston and I missed ya 😊. In Oregon of all places meeting my beloved’s (who was just as sad to miss Bobby’s event as I was!) family. Time well spent, oh yes, but would have been so lovely and amazing to meet you and Mary. Feeling the cautious optimism and jaded realism of this moment with you. Game of Thrones, in so many ways. “A wise man once said the true history of the world is a history of great conversations in elegant rooms”. Bobby has had his fair share I suspect. Grateful for your work, friend 🙏❤️

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Would have been a blast to see your face with my face, Brian! Although meeting your beloved’s family is a great reason to be someplace else. :) where is that quote from? So good. And yes, I’m sure Bobby has had many a conversation in many an elegant room.

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Game of Thrones! One of Tyrion Lannister’s many gems 😊

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Of course. 😂

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This is absolutely delightful! Great commentary! Fun story! RFK may not win, but I sure hope he gets people *talking*!

This takes me back (roughly 30 years ago) to when I was running for US Congress and in the middle of a crowd a man said to me "If you keep running you will meet the same fate as the Kennedys" and then he disappeared into the crowd again.

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😮 ever written a stack of what it was like running for Congress? I’ve only reas a few of your posts but you strike me as someone who wouldn’t amoeba into what the machine wants.

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Hmm... interesting idea. No, I haven't ever written about the experience (other than talking with friends over the years).

{laugh} Well, that's why I'm NOT a member of congress. I don't conform to the machine. The machine wants you to cut deals. Also people want you to tell them what they want to hear. Even thirty years ago people didn't want the message of "cut government spending" (oh they love that message until it includes cutting their favorite "government benefit"). Thus it's unlikely I ever would have any political success, but it sure was an interesting experience!

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I was looking forward to this. Thanks for including the nuance, all the grays. I was most delighted to hear how you found yourself there with Mary. Heartwarming. Thanks, Tonika for avoiding the extremes, for not jumping to conclusions, for staying open and curious, without blinders on. Yes, Just Tell the Truth, Bobby. Thank you.

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Thanks, Kathleen! Yes, lots of gray area, isn’t there? Especially for noobie tinfoil hat wearer such as I. I can’t go on experience, only on instinct. But even if the event was a dud (which it wasn’t), spending time with a Mary was the biggest highlight.

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Me, too!!

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Well I have been hanging out for this take for the last week, and you haven't disappointed Tonika. Clearly The Simulation made sure you had no choice but to be at the event so that you could provide (and hopefully keep providing!) your wholesome conspiratorial take on this most significant of political candidacies.

Now, I had no plans to make this about myself (let alone to even compare myself in the most tangential of ways to a Kennedy), and I apologise in advance for doing so, but perhaps I have a unique perspective to offer on what RFK's candidacy might be able to achieve. Exactly a year ago I was running in the Australian Federal election as an explicitly anti-Jibby Jab candidate. It was a mildly traumatic and highly exhausting experience, and I never had a chance in realpolitik terms of achieving anything. Nonetheless, there are no regrets, because winning was never the aim (even if I obviously wasn't saying this out loud at the time): the aim was to use this privileged platform I had been offered to *tell the truth*. By doing so, it gave license and inspiration for those who had been silenced for the last 2 years to tell the truth - but (perhaps most importantly), it created a space for fellow truth tellers like yourself and Mary to come together and foster the type of connections that actually can bring about a type of change that Politics itself seems now incapable of.

So, yes: tell the darn truth Bobby... even if that seems like an unfair expectation of us to hold, given what telling the truth has cost his family.

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Tonika, what a beautiful writer you are! I'd only experienced you visually and was missing half the feast. And I'll definitely be subbing Mary, what good company to be in.

I did have one of my YT viewers yesterday tell me that she'd contacted someone on RFK's committee. According to them, Steve never formed his SuperPAC and is telling his employees they'll need to work for free for a month because he's out of $$. Dennis Kucinich is his campaign manager, and Charles Eisenstein is an advisor. FWIW.

Glad that you're keeping the pressure on. I do wish we could find a 'hero', if that's what's needed, with a little less slime but Bobby's quip is pretty darn funny. I'm scheming another episode on him and the whole concept.

But Isaac! What a jibby-jabberwonky feat to run for Federal office (although of course that's a contradiction in terms there as here)! Good company to be in here on Tonika's page indeed.

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PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol X – Preparing for Power . . . (((SARS-CoV2)))

❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissention, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by the inoculation of diseases. by want, so that the “Goyim” see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and in all else.❞

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/protocol-x-preparing-for-power-sars

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Oh, how interesting! Kucinich intro’d Bobby at the announcement. And CE as an adviser is a very interesting choice, indeed. The environment conversation will hopefully be influenced by him towards the more Gaia lean and leas the Green new deal lean.

I was wondering if Kirsch had done the SuperPac because I didn’t hear him mention it again. Huh. Well, I can’t wait to see your take, Tereza. And about RFK Jr. You’ve got some super interesting analysis.

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That is fascinating and so well-articulated, Isaac! Yes! It IS those connections that will provide the foundation for something we can't even imagine yet.

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Twitter is total BULLSHIT, listen to Dr. Shiva . . . RFK Jr. is a dickhead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u90ymb2gF4I

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👏 👏 👏 I remember waiting around last year for you to get back to your substack after campaigning and your exhaustion was palpable. But it was obvious even then that you had stuck your foot in the slowly shutting door letting the fresh air in and then forced it open for the real conversations to happen. Especially in Australia, your move was brave af. Actually, you knowing that perhaps winning was an impossibility, but having a big platform to discuss vaccines openly was the actual point, made me come to the conclusion that that mig her very well be exactly what Bobby is doing too. I hope he goes long enough for a debate stage. It’s gonna be popcorn popping time in my household.

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yes, just tell the truth Bobby, this is your chance! I agree, I think he knows that we know that he knows he can't get elected- too much cleaning up of the rivers and vaccine schedules for that to be allowed to happen, but this is his opportunity to expose some stuff that goes on to many more people, before his skeletons rush out of the closet. Why does'nt he do it?

Funny what you say about Meryl Ness and the Rockefellers.

We're so caught up in distrust, we make a fuss cos Russel Brand kissed an historian on the forehead after said historian had spoken at Davos to promote his book, as though one can be infected with evil, become controlled opposition, be compromised morally and become a gullible fool just by standing next to or touching someone who might transmit these things to us, much like a non-existent virus!

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Having said that, Meryl Nass refuses to discuss virus existence so is either accidentally or deliberately narrative, if she is friends with the Rockefellers I would say deliberately.

And I couldn't bear the sight of Malone's gurning, smug face from that very first 3 hour video he popped up in when he 'admitted' to having been jabbed but regretting it afterwards, and everybody was congratulating themselves on taking IVM, HCQ or whatever.

I was also thinking of those who tell me not to listen to Russell Brand because he's a mason. He may be rich and did very briefly travelled in Hollywood circles but was that long enough for them to infect or take over his mind. If I listen to him tell the truth will I still be somehow subliminally affected and controlled? I went to see his tour 33, in between the laughing did something go in my brain?

When I tell some people in MFM that I'm vegan they draw back and their faces glaze, they tell me that my mind has been infected with compassion and is being controlled by the narrative. I've become an operative and might infect them with my reasoning.

Jo

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We don’t need to all think the same or feel the same about issues. Evolution is a group project and that means all our fellow humans. It takes all kinds of us to take the next giant leap forward, no one particular kind of thinking. I like Brand. He speaks my kind of language. Is he controlled op? Maybe. I still hear truth in his words. I don’t eat land animals, much to the chagrin of my Bulgarian carnivorous family, but I eat sea food. I was born in the Black Sea, I have seaweed running in my veins. Eating fish feels ancestral to me. Is there a virus? I don’t know. I don’t even know how to go about finding out. I hear rumors that some people got together to push the “no virus” agenda and inject it into the MFM but what do I know? I hold space for either theory to emerge for me. In the meantime, I love connecting with fellow travellers to the grave, even those that find themselves on paths different than mine. Enlightenment isn’t a homogeneous journey and expanding consciousness is surprisingly limitless. Thanks, Jo. Always find your comments worth responding to. 🙏

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Hiya VA,

Yes, who knows what enlightenment looks like and where it will go.

I hadn't' heard that rumour about people pushing a 'no virus agenda ' and inserting it into the MFM, though to what end I can't guess, it would seem to lead away from money and control. I guess they would think that I'd been infected with that psyop. Whereas I think that I made up my own mind about it.

I think that's my point. We'll never agree on issues and we don't need to in order to get along and love each other and debate is how we learn new things but this constant accusation that whatever we think, if someone in the MFM disagrees with it, we must have been manipulated and fooled into thinking it by some other agenda and not thought it for ourselves gets on my tits.

Jo

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Please help me out here. What is MFM?

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Hello, its something I read and started using only yesterday, I think I'll stop again! I think it's medical freedom movement, although I know there isn't a movement as such

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Maybe it isn’t an organised entity, more of an organic blob, but the Medical Freedom Movement name fits as a catch all for those who oppose draconian measures imposed by the medical complex, Big Pharma, and the politicians and journalists who prop medical tyranny up. I wish there was a better name for it, but due to its unorganised and hastily convergent nature, it has no leadership or PR firm talking over its branding, so MFM it is. We don’t all agree nor should we. It’s all just hypotheses in motion but with a strong bodily autonomy spine. 💪

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Your last line made me lulz. Also, my biases can also be consistent with reality, propaganda isn’t always untrue, and I’m not experienced to sus anything out, all I got is my gut. But glad to be here making sense of it all with y’all.

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I changed it, I'll put it back!

Yes, yes and yes.

I'm totally with you on listening to the gut, that's all we've got, but we've got a lot! A thing not ringing true is all the evidence we need.

I'm glad you're here too.

🐒

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